Amazon... politics

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01/09/2019 at 11:38 • Filed to: None

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Jeff Bezos and his wife are getting divorce. Unless there is something I don’t know, she is gonna get half his worth... about 80 billion

I don’t think that’s fair.

She didn’t do any more than any other wife. Pop out some kids. Keep house clean. Listen to his complaints and accomplishments.

The whole... half thing doesn’t seem fair to me.

What do you all think?


DISCUSSION (100)


Kinja'd!!! Manny05x > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:44

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You know how hard it is to raise a kid?  if she does she deserves it.


Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:46

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It’s not. But he didn’t earn that 8 0 billion all by himself either. The law is old and adequately covers maybe 80-90% of the cases. Outliers will get screwed on both ends.

Can’t make every law perfect for every situation.


Kinja'd!!! TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:46

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Do you know that for sure? Or are you just assuming?

Edit: Not the divorce part, but the “she didn’t contribute anything part”. 


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:47

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I am fine with it, because Jeff Bezos doesn’t deserve all of that wealth anyway.

Marriage is a partnership and everything gets shared, whether it's wealth or debt. Don't like it? Get a prenuptial agreement.


Kinja'd!!! nermal > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:47

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I’m honestly fine with her getting half of the $$$ - They were married 25 years, starting from before Amazon even existed.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > Manny05x
01/09/2019 at 11:48

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yeah, and millions of people have done it for far less than $40 billion.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > nermal
01/09/2019 at 11:48

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Yeah. That’s true... but she didn’t invent amazon. 


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:48

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“She didn’t do any more than any other wife. Pop out some kids. Keep house clean. Listen to his complaints and accomplishments.”

I think that maybe you are living in the 1950s.

Or are single.

Or have never given birth or raised kids.

Or are maybe trying your hand at some incel satire.

But for real, you know how much of an asshole Jeff Bezos is?  For the sake of argument, let’s say that despite being married for twenty five years, she played no role in helping him develop his company (which is bullshit). She deserves 100 million for being able to be around that guy for over two decades.


Kinja'd!!! Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:49

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I mean he's not gonna go hungry on a mere 40 billion.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 11:50

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Maybe all of the above... just saying that a regular human being spouse who didn’t invent amazon is comparable to Bezos’ wife. She didn’t invent half of it. I don’t see how she gets half. 


Kinja'd!!! fintail > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:51

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He seems kind of annoying (I’ve seen enough of the middle aged dork demographic who shaves his head to try to be edgy), that’s gotta be worth something. Should have got a prenup, not like he was worthless back in the day. She might settle for less too, 20BN would be plenty to keep someone going even in this age of worshiping and coddling dynastic wealth.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
01/09/2019 at 11:51

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If Partpooper is married, I know I’m assuming a lot of things about the way he treats his wife.


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:52

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To quote Chris Rock, “Half of a shitload, is a shitload.”

I don’t give a rat’ s ass how many billions each of them end up with.


Kinja'd!!! someassemblyrequired > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:52

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Honestly, I do think it’s fair . She’s been around since before Amazon, and probably had more impact on the company’s early existence than a lot of folks who made a pile of money on Amazon.

But seriously, who gets divorced after 25 years? I mean being married is work sometimes, but it sure beats being single, even if you’re a billionaire.


Kinja'd!!! BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:53

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Are they domiciled in Cali or Washington? WA community property laws are not quite as....aggressive...as California. That being said, that’s the risk you take when you get married in a community property state.

Marriage is dumb. 


Kinja'd!!! nermal > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:54

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But they were married when Amazon was invented. It would be different if they didn’t get together until after he was a bazillionaire. 


Kinja'd!!! ZHP Sparky, the 5th > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:54

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…but the joint decisions and sacrifices they presumably made as a married couple led to him starting the company.

My wife recently stopped working her extremely technical and skilled scientific research job (read - she is far smarter and better educated than I’ll ever be) because it made most sense for her to take a break to raise our daughter while she’s little (I do make more money currently although she probably has a lot more income potential for the future in her career) .

It’d be pretty shitty of me to turn around after a few years and go “all you do is sit around the house and cook, I’m the one doing all this fancy finance work at a real office. You don’t deserve half of what we have!”.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
01/09/2019 at 11:55

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I have no idea what she contributed. Assuming she did not invent amazon. 


Kinja'd!!! TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 11:55

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Agreed, t his is not the thinking of someone who holds women in high regard.


Kinja'd!!! diplodicus forgot his password > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:56

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Cause they both agreed to a contract. The contract is broken and the assets are split 50/50


Kinja'd!!! merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:56

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But we don’t know what part she played in it’s creation either.  I know my wife keeps me on the straight and narrow to my betterment.  And she has help inform business decisions I make throughout our marriage.  She put in time and work, so be it, thems the breaks.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > fintail
01/09/2019 at 11:57

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middle aged dork with no hair up top. Have to shave head or alternative is to have a comb over. There isn’t really an in- between. Long hair with maybe ponytail or shave.

prenup wasn’t really an option either if they got married before amazon was invented. 


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > shop-teacher
01/09/2019 at 11:58

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No. I don’t care either. All I am saying is that he probably did a lot of heavy lifting and she gets half a shit load. 


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
01/09/2019 at 11:59

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Probably fair. 


Kinja'd!!! nerd_racing > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:59

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she is pretty tall, could have named it after her. 


Kinja'd!!! wafflesnfalafel > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:59

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completely agree - she ought to get at least 75%


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > wafflesnfalafel
01/09/2019 at 11:59

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What? Not 100%?

he is smart enough. He will invent another amazon... 


Kinja'd!!! TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 11:59

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I’m guessing a spouse who is a Princeton grad would have a few good ideas and would probably make a good sounding board for others...

To answer you question though, I’m going to go with yes she does deserve it. She was there before Amazon even existed so to assume that she contributed nothing is just showing your bias.


Kinja'd!!! WilliamsSW > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:01

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Some of of view marriage as, you know, a “ partnership”. Where you’re both in it together- aka, for better or for worse.

When you exit a true partnership, you get half - she had to have had her input into the success of Amazon, even if indirectly.

Is she worth $ 40b? No more than her ex-husband, IMHO. But two more relevant points:

- it sounds like they have come to some agreement on how to split things, since it appears to be amicable- so they have made their own agreement.

- people at that level don’t usually care about the money really anyways - Jeff Bezos probably ( and rightly) cares more about control of Amazon than a few billion here or there. 


Kinja'd!!! Tripper > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:01

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lol @ billions. Who cares?!


Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:01

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She deserves every penny. And it’s not like Jeff is going to notice he’s down $ 40b. Much of that is probably stock options.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
01/09/2019 at 12:02

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Has nothing to do with level of regard.

When couple has kids and they split up, woman takes the kids in most cases... because she did most of the work.

In this case, amazon is the baby and Jeff did most of the work.

I don’t care one way or the other how they split things. I am just thinking the rule is a bit archaic... in both cases kids and company. 


Kinja'd!!! Cash Rewards > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:02

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They met at the same tech hedge fund. To think she had no input in Amazon creation is possibly incorrect. As they were/are both hedge fund managers, there is likely a prenup involved. They didn't meet poor.


Kinja'd!!! boredalways > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:03

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Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
01/09/2019 at 12:03

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I think amazon hit a trillion dollar mark sometime in 2018. I think they said on TV he was worth something like 180bb or 150bb... half of that is 90bb. Surely that’s noticeable .


Kinja'd!!! RPM esq. > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:04

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Any calculation of their wealth is based on the value of Amazon because it’s mostly Amazon equity. That equity is worth less if it’s divided or diminished because it constitutes Jeff’s control of the company, which investors clearly value. There’s no way it’s just chopped in half. With billions at stake they can afford smarter and more creative lawyers than you or I could.


Kinja'd!!! TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:05

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You have a very strange view of marriage.


Kinja'd!!! MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > fintail
01/09/2019 at 12:05

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C orrect me if I’m wrong, but a prenup I believe only covers what you had at the start of the marriage. So everything he made since getting married is fair game, which is pretty much everything in this case.


Kinja'd!!! MonkeePuzzle > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:06

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eh, when you have 80 billions still after you give away 80 billions, you still have more money than you can ever spend. 


Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:06

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I can’t even comprehend that level of wealth. I would have one person who’s only job would be to tie my shoes.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Manny05x
01/09/2019 at 12:07

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I don’t know the inner workings of their marriage, but I would assume they have baby sitter army for each of their kids. 


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:07

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I was almost certain they were all true, minus the incel thing being satire.

Marriage is a union. Two people coming together to form one unit. When you break that union (assuming you don’t have a prenuptial agreement) you break it in half. If you don’t like that, my best advice is to never get married, or have a prenup. It’s not like anyone changed the rules halfway through the game.

Your views on the role women and mothers play in both the family and society are what’s more concerning to me.

Many women are forced into servitude by men with the same views you seem to hold. If divorce wasn’t set up in this way, then they would be left destitute if they decided to leave their husbands. Look at Saudi Arabia as a good example of this.  They’d be punished for being good mothers who chose to leave an abusive spouse.

There’s a lot more that goes into a marriage and raising a family than who brings home more money.


Kinja'd!!! WilliamsSW > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:10

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At a bare minimum, she provided him support when he quit his job as a hedgie and moved across the country on a whim to Seattle and came up with a business plan to sell books. That’s pretty significant. 


Kinja'd!!! Tekamul > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:11

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Because they’re in Washington state, the split could be pretty expensive, but wouldn’t be half. His net value is tied to 80 million Amazon shares. If he gives half of those up, their value will drop as he loses some of his control on the company that makes them worth something. It would be self-defeating. 

She’ll likely settle for a lot of property, and 1 fat check of up to a billion.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 12:12

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I don’t know where you are getting your information from.

Is any of what I said false? Did she not pop out some kids? Did she not listen to her husbands successes and failures? Maybe kept the house clean. MAYBE. Maybe she didn’t. That’s all I said.

I know for a fact Jeff did not pop out any kids. 

I have no idea if she had any contributions to invention and development of amazon. She is probably smart. She probably has a job of some sort. I don’t know.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > WilliamsSW
01/09/2019 at 12:13

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Yeah. That may be true. 


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
01/09/2019 at 12:15

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why not two people? Each shoe has two ends of a lace


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Cash Rewards
01/09/2019 at 12:16

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This is probably correct.


Kinja'd!!! WilliamsSW > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:18

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That bit is from a 1996 WSJ article on Bezos. It might have been fluffed up a bit for public consumption, but I presume that it’s basically true.


Kinja'd!!! The Dummy Gummy > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:20

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This has to be the most sexist thing I’ve read in weeks.


Kinja'd!!! nermal > fintail
01/09/2019 at 12:21

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When they got married he was just a regular jagoff, and Amazon didn’t exist . No need for a prenup at that point.


Kinja'd!!! ZHP Sparky, the 5th > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:21

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FYI – she doesn’t “get half of Amazon”. Amazon is worth far more than what Jeff Bezos is worth. She will simply get half of their joint net worth as individuals. The fact that he earned a significant sum of money starting and running that company is in no uncertain terms a result of their successful union in a marriage of making decisions and sacrifices together…either that or one of them being an intolerable asshole, yet the other still managing to keep things functional on the family front.

Even if you were to make an argument that she didn’t earn half of what they have you’d need to do a hell of a lot more detailed financial and statistical analysis that the old 1950s trope you’re throwing about implying that she did nothing other than sit pretty while the man of the house actually did everything himself.

Hint – if you’re not already married you might want to read up on what getting married actually means before doing so. If you already are, I sure hope your spouse knows/knew of these beliefs of yours before they got themselves in to this arrangement.


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:21

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We really have no idea how much she did or didn’t do.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > shop-teacher
01/09/2019 at 12:22

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no. no we don’t.


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:23

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It sure seems like you don't think that there's much value in giving birth and raising kids. 


Kinja'd!!! themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:23

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If he's right h because he's a genius then he was smart enough for a prenup or some kind of legal protection. If he wasn't? Well looks like he lost 40 billion by his own hand. 


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 12:24

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I would add that in SA it’s the men that would be doing the divorcing.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:26

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Yeah, you don’t get it.

My advice to you would be to not get married, and definitely don’t have kids.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > ZHP Sparky, the 5th
01/09/2019 at 12:27

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Thanks for the info.

FYI, when a couple has a kid and get divorced, they don’t split a kid in half. One of the parents gets the kid more than the other. Still their kid... but kid lives with one parent more than other.

Bring that logic into this example and you get where I am coming from.

Sure. Many will disagree. And that’s fine. Still a free country where we can still discuss ideas freely.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 12:28

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I’ll take your suggestion under advisement. 


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > someassemblyrequired
01/09/2019 at 12:28

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“who gets divorced after 25 years?”

People who wanted to get a divorce a while ago but decided to wait until the kids got older?


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Chuckles
01/09/2019 at 12:29

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I didn’t say that. I said if you compare her to say your wife...

Say you and your wife split up, does she get 80 billion and if not, are you short changing her?


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:37

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I am not a billionaire, so no, she wouldn’t. But we can’t just come up with some arbitrary value for what every woman deserves in a divorce because she raised kids. It’s not like they go to court and a judge says “well you raised 3 kids, therefore you are due $300,000 per year of marriage just like every other mother of 3 gets in a divorce.”

Every marriage is a partnership. It's not about how much he makes and how much she makes. It's all shared, good and bad. If Jeff Bezos wasn't interested in sharing his wealth he wouldn't have gotten married. But he did get married, at which point he agreed to share everything.


Kinja'd!!! Snailkite > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:38

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Turn this around:

Why should Bezos get out of a contract he willingly entered into and has accepted for 25 years? When the got married, they did so with the knowledge that anything either one of them earned during the marriage would become part of their shared marital estate (assuming no prenup) without any regard to who earned the money or performed the labor . Jeff could have terminated this contract by divorcing her long before this, but he chose not to. Why should he get any relief from the contract?


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:40

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I agree that it’s bullshit . But that’s the way it is.

And the way it is also means I will never get married again.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Chuckles
01/09/2019 at 12:40

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Yeah. I suppose that’s a fair assessment .


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Manny05x
01/09/2019 at 12:41

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“You know how hard it is to raise a kid?”

Yes, I personally do.

Unless the child has special needs, it’s not really all THAT hard.

And I say that as a divorced father with full custody.


Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:43

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IDENTICAL TWINS!


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
01/09/2019 at 12:44

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Nice! 


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > fintail
01/09/2019 at 12:49

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A prenup only protects untouched assets that predate the marriage. It does nothing for protecting the increase in value of the assets during the marriage as well as new investments.

On top of that, judges have a habit of setting aside parts or all of prenup agreements.

The only safe way to protect yourself financially from a relationship that goes south is to not get married in the first place.   AND... live in a jurisdiction that doesn’t recognize common law marriage.


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:49

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Pretty sure ol Jeffy will be fine with...$80,000,000,000 left to his name. Fuck ‘em.


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:51

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“I am just thinking the rule is a bit archaic “

Marriage itself is a crappy, archaic financial agreement.

Nothing more.

People who claim marriage is about love and commitment don’t know anything about what marriage is legally about... or what it has been historically about.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Snailkite
01/09/2019 at 12:54

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Thank you for a reasonable argument.

I am daring to assume that when they were getting married, they didn’t think of amazon. Perhaps they p lanned to live their lives like normal humans. Have some kids. Picket fence. All that. 50/50 then seems fair.

But then Amazon turned into a beast. Who knows. Maybe it’s financially beneficial for Jeff to terminate marriage now because maybe Amazon will grow even bigger in the future. Sort of like a belated prenup. I don’t know why cut the wife out at this point in time though ... unless... she wants out. Maybe she wants to lock in the benefits before Amazon turns into Sears.

We don’t know who wants out and why.


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:54

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It’s not really about the value of their contributions, because it’s not like Jeff Bezos really earned those billions of dollars through hard labor. He had a food idea, he put in some work, and it took off. If Amazon becomes more valuable, it’s because of the workers in his company more than it is anything he did at this point.

Let's consider a different scenario: if your wife bought the winning Mega Millions lottery ticket and won a billion dollars, and then a year later wants a divorce, wouldn't you be entitled to half of that money? It's not like she really earned it. What if you quit your job after she won and told you that you'd never have to work again? What if the divorce was 20 years after she won the lottery? You haven't worked in two decades because you two invested that money wisely. Would your wife say "well, he didn't really do anything for 20 years except keep the house clean." 


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 12:55

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And one other thing...


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01/09/2019 at 12:59

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Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Chuckles
01/09/2019 at 13:00

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Thank you for a reasonable argument.

If my wife won mega billions, it would be hers to keep. I don’t want any part of it. If I bought a box of matches with that money, I would feel guilty wasting away her fortunes. I would not quit my job either. I don’t care who says what. I can always point back at Jeff Bezos and say if he is working with all that money, who am I to stop? 


Kinja'd!!! Manny05x > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
01/09/2019 at 13:01

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25 years by his side her contributions are as big as his. Money has not been mentioned and you already speculating.


Kinja'd!!! Manny05x > jimz
01/09/2019 at 13:02

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She is part of his success whether is for less or more she deserves it.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Party-vi
01/09/2019 at 13:02

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I have no doubts about his well being. Both of them will be fine. Kids will also be fine. Their pool boys and gardeners will all be fine.

Even if he gave her more than 50% which I am sure will happen between divorce and alimony... still will be fine. 


Kinja'd!!! fintail > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 13:08

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I meant it in this kind of way, the faux tough guy - I see it a bit in the office campus where I work too. Nobody is fooled:

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Good point on the dates.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
01/09/2019 at 13:09

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Your last point nails it.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > nermal
01/09/2019 at 13:10

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I made a boo boo in arithmetic for marriage age vs Amazon age.

Oh well, they will both be fine.


Kinja'd!!! ZHP Sparky, the 5th > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 13:12

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Pretty sure there are plenty of divorces where both parents end up with equal custody of the kids. Even if that weren’t the case, it’s pretty silly to take an imperfect example (because you can’t split a kid in two) and apply that as the benchmark for other belongings that actually can be easily liquidated and split in two.

What are your thoughts on parental responsibility? A woman obviously is pretty integral the entire pregnancy and giving birth process, and even afterwards often play a lobsided role in raising the kids too. Even if a couple tries to be as equal as possible kids often have a much stronger bond with their mothers when very young, and is recommended that they breastfeed in all possible instances. Throw on top of that the fact that childcare is prohibitively expensive (and you lose a lot of the experience of imprinting your parenting beliefs on your child in such cases) many couples make the decision for one of them to stay home if they can afford it. Even if it wasn’t intended, it can easily end up becoming a permanent or longer-term solution that initially intended. Let’s assume that both parties came to a joint conclusion on such an arrangement – and one wasn’t forced to stay home against their will – why does the one who remained employed for cashflow purposes suddenly end up having more of an ownership say in the cash inflows to the household?

In many instances if the single earner gets promotions, or does better at their job and ends up with a higher income this might mean that it would make MORE sense for the person who stopped working to remain a stay-at-home parent/homemaker to keep giving the kids more undivided attention and handle logistics of the household. Again these are typically, and presumably, joint decisions for the betterment of the entire family. So why would it not be the case that the money coming in to the house isn’t owned jointly and equally?


Kinja'd!!! The Dummy Gummy > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
01/09/2019 at 13:13

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After reading all his replies I’m hoping he’s just a caveman who has somehow found his way to the future. I’m also hoping he isn’t married/dating because that woman is probably treated like garbage.


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 13:14

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It sounds like you and your wife keep your finances separate. That doesn’t seem to be the case for most people these days. In a lot of marriages, it’s about working together. Both people put most (or all) of their income into a shared account. If I get a Christmas bonus, it’s not my money. It’s our money. Same if my wife earns a bonus. So if one of us is fortunate enough to win a large sum of money, it belongs to both of us.

Remember in my scenario how I said that you has quit your job for 20 years because she told you to? Now think about raising a child. Many women have to quit their jobs for many years to raise children. So should the husband keep all of the money in a divorce because he’s the one that kept working? Of course not. If a married couple agrees that one of them should work and the other one quits to raise kids, that means that the working person should be sharing 100% of that money with the family. It’s not his to keep. The wife is sacrificing a career to raise those children.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Chuckles
01/09/2019 at 13:28

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Did she sacrifice a career to raise children? Do they not have an army of babysitters for each of their children? If not, why not?

I get what you are saying and I agree with you that logic works for most folks. Here though, it seems different. I guess I am having a bit of a difficult time putting it in words in trying to explain why it’s different.

Surely we can agree that this couple is not an ordinary couple and amount of money is not a common amount. Success of Amazon is also not regular. 


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 13:34

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When most couples get married, they agree to share everything for better or worse. Typically, those vows do not include the phrase “* unless one of us becomes wealthier than God, in which case the other person can go pound sand.”

I agree that everything about this situation is uncommon, but I also think that you've received a lot of backlash because you keep saying "she popped out a few kids and maybe kept the house clean" in a kind of derogatory manner that makes it seem like you don't value that as a contribution to family. 


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01/09/2019 at 13:40

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Sure. But as you said... each case is different. Agreed jointly that one will do one thing and other will do another - be it care for child or work or whatever.

In this case, however, I would venture to say they have an army of babysitters and her career was never over because she was forced into it. Choice, maybe. sure.


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Chuckles
01/09/2019 at 13:43

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I know how I said it comes off harsh. I was simply drawing parallels between what she did and what any other wife with kids did. Same service (more or less) , different outcome.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
01/09/2019 at 13:44

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It’s the raising kids while maintaining a healthy marriage that’s the hard part (as you can attest to). My brother, sister and I were all raised by my dad, so keep up the good work.


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 14:02

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On the other hand, if you looked at how Jeff Bezos spends his time and compare it against other business people, he probably doesn't do much different than most. He just had the right idea at the right time. But he doesn't deserve billions of dollars more than anybody else does. Same service (more or less), different outcome.


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01/09/2019 at 15:03

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“25 years by his side her contributions are as big as his”

If they do a 50-50 split, then I seriously doubt that... unless she was also a director at Amazon and also worked her ass off to build the company.


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 15:23

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Actually my preferred situation was to have shared 50-50 custody.

But my ex didn’t get her shit together financially and as of 2017, she had to move back home with her family.

And that meant the kids couldn’t stay with her overnight anymore because her parent’s home doesn’t have the space.

So she comes over to my place once or twice a week to see the kids.

And that, in turn, has caused some stress/jealousy for my girlfriend and I had to have some firm “So what are you saying?  I shouldn’t let my kids see their mother???” conversations with her where I was fully prepared to walk away from the relationship if she made be choose between her and doing what I felt was right for my kids.


Kinja'd!!! nermal > fintail
01/09/2019 at 16:22

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As is traditional, the real winners here will be the lawyers. 


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
01/09/2019 at 16:26

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Ooof. Good luck with that one.


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 16:28

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Actually she seems to have gotten the message and hasn’t hassled me over it for a while.


Kinja'd!!! Monkey B > PartyPooper2012
01/09/2019 at 16:43

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half of it is an obscene amount of money...nobody should have that much money. He could have a 1/4 of that and it’s still obscene. Has a bunch of employees at poverty level, perhaps this should be different.  


Kinja'd!!! Elumerere > fintail
01/09/2019 at 17:40

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It’s the crossfit muscles that tie this look together (and make it as annoying as you mentioned in the first post).


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > DipodomysDeserti
01/09/2019 at 22:32

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